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		<title>Foaming at the mouth</title>
		<link>http://bungalowinsanity.com/2008/01/28/slow-slow-month/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 07:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>julio</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Family room]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[foam]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK, the truth is that it&#8217;s been a slow 6 months, because it&#8217;s been about that long since Ginger was born.  We haven&#8217;t had time to attempt even the simplest of projects, hence the post of a pug with a candy cane.  Cute, yes, but what does that have to do with remodeling? [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, the truth is that it&#8217;s been a slow 6 months, because it&#8217;s been about that long since Ginger was born.  We haven&#8217;t had time to attempt even the simplest of projects, hence the post of a pug with a candy cane.  Cute, yes, but what does that have to do with remodeling? Nothing, so that&#8217;s why I had to put a catchy title on this only marginally more interesting post.  I just don&#8217;t want to look back months from now and realize that we haven&#8217;t had a real entry since November.</p>
<p>Well, a couple of weeks ago we were trying to get our temporary guest room ready for some guests.  And by &#8220;guest room,&#8221; I mean let&#8217;s pull a mattress out the the basement and thrown it on the floor in Chloe&#8217;s old, empty room.  But it is a big step up from the basement, to which our cat, Luna, claims full ownership.</p>
<p>Anyway, back to the room.  For as long as we&#8217;ve lived here, the back bedroom has been the coldest room in the house.  It&#8217;s not just a little bit cooler &#8211; it has always been at least 10 degrees more frigid in the winter and has the added bonus of being the only room in the house that gets a blast of late afternoon sun in the summer.  Our neighbor&#8217;s house is taller and spares the rest of ours from the sun&#8217;s rays, but this poor room sticks out just far enough to get superheated.  The problem, of course, is that the room has no insulation.  This is something that we plan to remedy, but it&#8217;s standing in line with so many other projects that are competing for our time and money.</p>
<p>I shouldn&#8217;t admit this on the internet, where anyone can read and laugh at my lack of insight, but it never occurred to me before a few weeks ago that we could at least do something to improve the situation right away.  A side note&#8230;I often let projects grow very large in my head, because I hate wasting effort, and I want everything done the &#8220;right&#8221; way.  I would rather let something sit and sit as-is until I can get to it, since I don&#8217;t want to spend any time doing a temporary job that I&#8217;ll later have to redo.  That had been my MO for this room for the last 3 years, so I never really sat back and wondered if anything could be done in the meantime.  So that brings me to the topic of our window trim.  I had removed all of it back in 2005, so that we could get it dipped and stripped.  Two weeks later I picked up the trim, so if you&#8217;re paying attention, that means that it&#8217;s been sitting around for 34 months, patiently waiting to be lovingly refinished and reinstalled.  Many, many times, we&#8217;ve commented &#8220;damn it&#8217;s cold in here,&#8221; and Stephanie has even asked &#8220;do you think it&#8217;d be warmer if we put the trim back up.&#8221;  I always responded with a dozen reasons why it couldn&#8217;t be done now, since I wasn&#8217;t even sure if we should leave the walls or tear down the old plaster (it&#8217;s in bad shape, with lots of layers of paper over it), and we still haven&#8217;t decided if we&#8217;re just painting over the paint or stripping everything else down and going with stain.  And again, the insulation issue&#8230;would we do it from the inside, the outside or just have some blown in?  Too many decisions to make to actually commit to reinstalling the trim.  So, fast forward to 3 weeks ago, and I&#8217;m staring at the empty cavities around the window, and I finally wonder what&#8217;s stopping me from spraying in some low-expansion foam.  During all that time, I never gave it any thought, but once I did, I realized that spraying it right away would not interfere with anything down the road.  Duh!</p>
<p>Four cans of foam later, the difference in room temperature was astounding.  While it&#8217;s still colder than the other rooms due to its distance from the furnace, it&#8217;s temperature must have gone up at least 5 or 6 degrees.  I know that to be true, because we don&#8217;t have to wear jackets and hats to walk into the room anymore.  And, of course, the lack of draftiness makes it feel much more comfortable.  So, $26 and 5 minutes of time saved us a whole bunch of natural gas.  My belief is that because the foam stopped the draft issue in the room, it was just as or even more important than the wall insulation.  We still look forward to getting that done, but in the meantime we&#8217;ve stopped a major source of heat loss in our house.  I&#8217;m still kicking myself for the nights that we&#8217;d run a space heater just to make it tolerable for Chloe on the colder nights.  And to think of all the countless hours spent painstakingly insulating every little nook and cranny of the upstairs, while every little gust of wind could blow its way through our exterior trim. Well, at least it&#8217;s done now&#8230;</p>
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<p>9/6/2008 edit: this room is now on its way to being repurposed as our family/guest room.</p>
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		<title>First (small) sign of progress!</title>
		<link>http://bungalowinsanity.com/2007/11/10/first-small-sign-of-progress/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>julio</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Upstairs]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[See if you can follow the math&#8230;
Colder weather
+ Large holes in the closet walls (attic access areas)
+ No heat ducts
= Cold upstairs
 
While the new insulation has made a tremendous difference, not having the furnace connected (yet) to the upstairs was not working out now that we&#8217;re into November.  It was getting too cold [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See if you can follow the math&#8230;</p>
<p>Colder weather<br />
+ Large holes in the closet walls (attic access areas)<br />
+ No heat ducts<br />
= Cold upstairs</p>
<p><a title="dsc_7538.jpg" href="http://bungalowinsanity.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/dsc_7538.jpg"><img src="http://bungalowinsanity.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/dsc_7538.thumbnail.jpg" alt="dsc_7538.jpg" /></a> <a title="dsc_6773.JPG" href="http://bungalowinsanity.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/dsc_6773.JPG"><img src="http://bungalowinsanity.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/dsc_6773.thumbnail.JPG" alt="dsc_6773.JPG" /></a></p>
<p>While the new insulation has made a tremendous difference, not having the furnace connected (yet) to the upstairs was not working out now that we&#8217;re into November.  It was getting too cold for Chloe to be sleeping up there, so I finally took the first small step back into the remodeling world since Project Ginger.  I put in foam insulation and 1/4&#8243; plywood panels to cover all of the attic access holes.  I probably went overkill by creating 7 of them, but I do not like inaccessible, or even difficult to access, areas.  Some parts of the attic had been sealed up since the house was built in 1911, although maybe ignorance is bliss, since who wants to even know about <a href="http://bungalowinsanity.com/2006/03/12/new-closet-spaceraccoon-poop/">raccoon poop</a>?   So, here&#8217;s what they look like now and what lies behind the plywood.   Check back in another five years to see if we&#8217;ve even painted them by then!</p>
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		<title>Holy crap, we&#8217;re ready for drywall!</title>
		<link>http://bungalowinsanity.com/2007/02/25/holy-crap-were-ready-for-drywall/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 04:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>julio</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Bath]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Playroom]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[It has taken us a long time to get to this point.  Specifically, 2 1/2 years since we bought the house, almost 2 years since we moved in and about 13 months since we started working on the upstairs (not counting the gut job we did a week after we bought it).  As [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has taken us a long time to get to this point.  Specifically, 2 1/2 years since we bought the house, almost 2 years since we moved in and about 13 months since we started working on the upstairs (not counting the gut job we did a week after we bought it).  As we mentioned before, we have the pressure of a 2nd kid on the way to push us to turn our 2 bedroom back into the 4 bedroom that it started as.  And while we&#8217;re at it, we thought why not <a title="Was it worth it just to get 3" href="http://bungalowinsanity.com/2006/03/05/more-headroom/">raise the ceiling</a> and <a href="http://bungalowinsanity.com/2006/03/10/new-bathroom-framing/">add a bathroom</a>?  In retrospect, it&#8217;s probably ideas like those that cause our projects to take so much longer than they feel like they should.  Here&#8217;s a quick update of what I wrapped up during my &#8220;vacation&#8221; last week&#8230;</p>
<p>Chloe&#8217;s room.  In the 2nd picture, you can see the cavity that will eventually house a pocket door, one of the greatest inventions of all time:</p>
<p><a class="imagelink" title="dsc_6091.JPG" href="http://bungalowinsanity.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/dsc_6091.JPG"><img id="image160" src="http://bungalowinsanity.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/dsc_6091.thumbnail.JPG" alt="dsc_6091.JPG" /></a> <a class="imagelink" title="dsc_6117.JPG" href="http://bungalowinsanity.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/dsc_6117.JPG"><img id="image161" src="http://bungalowinsanity.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/dsc_6117.thumbnail.JPG" alt="dsc_6117.JPG" /></a></p>
<p>Bathroom.  This room also gets a pocket door.  I threw in and old picture so you can see how we stole some space out of Chloe&#8217;s room and the main room to create the bath.  In that picture you can see the old closet doorway, the right side of which was where the dividing wall between rooms originally was.</p>
<p><a class="imagelink" title="dsc_6108.JPG" href="http://bungalowinsanity.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/dsc_6108.JPG"><img id="image162" src="http://bungalowinsanity.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/dsc_6108.thumbnail.JPG" alt="dsc_6108.JPG" /></a> <a class="imagelink" title="dsc_6116.JPG" href="http://bungalowinsanity.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/dsc_6116.JPG"><img id="image163" src="http://bungalowinsanity.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/dsc_6116.thumbnail.JPG" alt="dsc_6116.JPG" /></a></p>
<p><a class="imagelink" title="dsc_6114.JPG" href="http://bungalowinsanity.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/dsc_6114.JPG"><img id="image164" src="http://bungalowinsanity.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/dsc_6114.thumbnail.JPG" alt="dsc_6114.JPG" /></a> <a class="imagelink" title="upstairs15_2.jpg" href="http://bungalowinsanity.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/upstairs15_2.jpg"><img id="image165" src="http://bungalowinsanity.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/upstairs15_2.thumbnail.jpg" alt="upstairs15_2.jpg" /></a></p>
<p>Main room insulation and vapor barrier completed.  I didn&#8217;t take any pictures of the front room (the new baby&#8217;s), but it is also ready to go.<br />
<a class="imagelink" title="dsc_6099.JPG" href="http://bungalowinsanity.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/dsc_6099.JPG"><img id="image166" src="http://bungalowinsanity.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/dsc_6099.thumbnail.JPG" alt="dsc_6099.JPG" /></a> <a class="imagelink" title="dsc_6106.JPG" href="http://bungalowinsanity.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/dsc_6106.JPG"><img id="image167" src="http://bungalowinsanity.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/dsc_6106.thumbnail.JPG" alt="dsc_6106.JPG" /></a></p>
<p>We can now start getting bids from drywallers.  We&#8217;re going to hire it out, because we want to finish sometime this year, not sometime this decade&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Insulation</title>
		<link>http://bungalowinsanity.com/2006/08/11/insulation/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2006 22:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>julio</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Earlier in the spring, we got much of the insulation into the upstairs. After Julio had a bad experience on a 100 degree day in June (real smart&#8230;), we decided to blow off the upstairs until things cooled down again in the fall. At the end of Julio&#8217;s two week vacation, the insulation was about [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Earlier in the spring, we got much of the insulation into the upstairs. After Julio had a bad experience on a 100 degree day in June (real smart&#8230;), we decided to blow off the upstairs until things cooled down again in the fall. At the end of Julio&#8217;s two week vacation, the insulation was about 50% done.</p>
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		<title>Messy, messy job (blown-in insulation)</title>
		<link>http://bungalowinsanity.com/2006/03/12/messy-messy-job-blown-in-insulation/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 00:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>julio</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ One of the messiest (but strangely fun) jobs upstairs.  We used cellulose insulation to fill in all the joist cavities prior to putting the subfloors down in the new closet areas.
It was definitely a two person job, as you really need someone to run the machine and keep jamming the chunks of insulation into [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="/wp-content/uploads/typepad_exports_bungalow/upstairs19.jpg"><img src="/wp-content/uploads/typepad_exports_bungalow/thumbnails/upstairs19.jpg" border="0" alt="Upstairs19" width="200" height="150" /></a> One of the messiest (but strangely fun) jobs upstairs.  We used cellulose insulation to fill in all the joist cavities prior to putting the subfloors down in the new closet areas.</p>
<p>It was definitely a two person job, as you really need someone to run the machine and keep jamming the chunks of insulation into the hopper.  But once you get a good routing going, it really goes quickly.  The only catch is that it blows so much dust that you can&#8217;t even see what you&#8217;re doing!</p>
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		<title>Kitchen insulation</title>
		<link>http://bungalowinsanity.com/2005/02/14/kitchen-insulation/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2005 03:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>julio</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Kitchen]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[ This was a great point, to finally have the room ready for drywall.  It felt like six tons being lifted off of our shoulders.
The bad part of the story was that we were on a really, really tight timeline, due to being squeezed between a Friday inspection (for rough-ins) and a Monday inspection (insulation) [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="/wp-content/uploads/typepad_exports_bungalow/kitchen39.jpg"><img src="/wp-content/uploads/typepad_exports_bungalow/thumbnails/kitchen39.jpg" border="0" alt="Kitchen39" width="200" height="150" /></a> This was a great point, to finally have the room ready for drywall.  It felt like six tons being lifted off of our shoulders.</p>
<p>The bad part of the story was that we were on a really, really tight timeline, due to being squeezed between a Friday inspection (for rough-ins) and a Monday inspection (insulation) in order to be ready for our drywaller to start on Tuesday morn.  Julio&#8217;s dad was coming into town to help put the kitchen together the next weekend, so it was very important to have the drywalling done by then.  Both the kitchen and bath had to be done over the weekend, and some delays forced Julio to pull an all-nighter on Sunday night.  It all worked out as we needed it to, but the weekend was one that we didn&#8217;t want to think about for a long time.</p>
<p>Because it&#8217;s almost impossible to keep Kraft paper intact and to maintain a good, continuous barrier, we like to use a sheet of plastic as the vapor barrier.  It&#8217;s much easier to add the plastic after the insulation than it is to try to night tear and rip the Kraft paper.</p>
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		<title>Big mess</title>
		<link>http://bungalowinsanity.com/2004/07/27/big-mess/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2004 19:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>julio</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Kitchen]]></category>
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This was the last of the plaster to come out of the kitchen.  While gutting a room is fun for the first 5 or 10 minutes, it always turns into a horrible, time-consuming project.  What made this particularly bad was the 40 year old blown-in insulation sitting above the kitchen ceiling.  Now that I have [...]]]></description>
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<p>This was the last of the plaster to come out of the kitchen.  While gutting a room is fun for the first 5 or 10 minutes, it always turns into a horrible, time-consuming project.  What made this particularly bad was the 40 year old blown-in insulation sitting above the kitchen ceiling.  Now that I have been through this a few times, I now realize that the best thing to do is to just leave the ceiling and insulation alone and to go over the whole thing with drywall.  Losing 1/2&#8243; of height is a fair trade for less mess and not having to reinsulate&#8230;</p>
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